The meaning of the proverb: “The further into the forest, the more firewood. The further into the forest, the more firewood. Applications of proverbs in literature

Every solution creates new problems (Murphy's law)

Analogues of the expression “further into the forest, more firewood”

• The further into the argument, the more words
• Life is not a field to live
• Without knowing grief, you will not know joy
• God gave the day, He will also give food
• If you don't catch a crucian carp, you'll catch a pike
• How many days does God have ahead, so many misfortunes
• Live forever, hope forever
• What will happen will happen, you can’t escape it
• Further out to sea - more sorrow
• Where there is fire, there is smoke

Applications of proverbs in literature

— « When you finally go upstairs,” Apollo continued, “it turns out that you will have a duel with a giant spider - and the further you go into the forest, the thicker the spiders become.”"(Victor Pelevin "Batman Apollo")
— « While there was still talk about tobacco, about a bottle of vodka, until then, one way or another, they could help him, but the further into the forest - the more firewood, and Kornev and Kartashev were lost, seeing that, in fact, there was no end to Konon’s demands will"(N. G. Garin-Mikhailovsky “Gymnasium students”)
— « The further into the forest, the more firewood: all Arkov residents owe, their debt grows with each new crop, with each extra head of livestock, and for some it already extends to an unpaid figure - two or even three hundred rubles per capita"(A.P. Chekhov "Sakhalin Island")
— « Anninka became convinced that the further into the forest, the more firewood there was, and she began to finally say goodbye"(M. E. Saltykov-Shchedrin “Gentlemen Golovlevs”)

Russian proverb meaning: The deeper you dive into a problem, matter, etc., the more subtleties and features that were previously hidden, you discover.

Examples

(1860 - 1904)

“Vaudeville” (1884): “The wife is hysterical. The daughter declares that she is not able to live with such violent parents, and gets dressed to leave home. . It ends with an important guest finding a doctor on stage applying the husband's head has lead lotions, and a private bailiff drawing up a protocol for violating public peace and quiet."

"Sakhalin island"- “The cattle, such as we have, are borrowed from the treasury and fed at the state expense. The further into the forest, the more firewood: all Arkov residents owe, their debt grows with each new crop, with each extra head of livestock, and for some it already extends to an unpaid figure - two or even three hundred rubles per capita."

(1809 - 1852)

(1831-1832), I - about Ivan Fedorovich Shponka:

“He was already nearly fifteen years old when he moved to the second grade, where, instead of the abbreviated catechism and the four rules of arithmetic, he began to study the long one, a book about the positions of man and fractions. But, seeing that the further into the forest, the more firewood, and having received the news that the father ordered him to live long, he stayed for another two years and, with the consent of his mother, then joined the P*** infantry regiment."

Selection scary comics in the setting of rural America.

To bookmarks

Fans of the horror genre are familiar firsthand with the oppressive atmosphere of American forests. You don’t have to look far for examples: you can recall both classics like Sam Raimi’s The Evil Dead and the experimental The Cabin in the Woods, directed by Drew Goddard.

However, not only filmmakers, but also many comic book authors turned to this setting, with key works which this selection will introduce you to. More material you will find about comics in my telegram channel.

Hillbilly

Eric Powell - creator of the legendary comic The Goon. Having completed the epic saga, the author changed course to more local stories in his new fantasy universe. A stern-looking protagonist with a mysterious origin, who travels the world and encounters evil spirits from myths and legends. Doesn't remind you of anything? Analogies with Hellboy suggest themselves, but already in the first issue it becomes obvious that the comics are different both in spirit and in execution.

During the creation of The Goon, Powell practiced his craft of screenplay and art, achieving high level in Hillbilly. Drawing inspiration from Appalachian folklore, the author uses a distinctive mountain accent in the dialogue to add authenticity to the work.

In this comic he moved away from the long format plot novel with many characters and twisting plots, focusing on short but captivating plots. The main character loves to listen, tell and discuss stories. At the same time, as in life, stories change from storyteller to storyteller, inviting the reader to decide for himself: what is true and what is fiction.

To convey the mood, Powell actively works with colors: the main part of the world is made in muted yellow-brown shades, with sharp pencil lines, like a rough sketch in a notebook. At the same time, the author has an impressive range of visual styles, without turning the comic into a dull yellow mess. Powell enjoys working with mythological bestiary: here you will find many-faced wolves, insidious witches, familiar trolls and creatures characteristic of Appalachia, which you have hardly heard of before.

Overall, a great story that combines a unique fantasy universe with horror elements and great dialogues about repentance, love spells and stupid people.

Harrow County

A teenage and sometimes rather naive comic book that talks, among other things, about the problems of growing up. The story of Harrow County is dedicated to the conflict between a girl and the villagers, who are confident that she is the next incarnation of a powerful witch who was once killed. In an attempt to prove her innocence, the main character discovers that she actually has a connection with supernatural beings.

After this, the plot of the work begins to develop rapidly, and many minor characters. Cullen Bunn, far from being the most talented screenwriter, performs surprisingly well in Harrow County. He is especially successful at intensifying the horror, which he creates using a simple formula: several pages are spent leading up to the spread, where the next monster appears in all its disgusting ugliness. A kind of analogue of jump scares from movies.

But the star of the comic is artist Tyler Crook, who is known for his work on B.P.R.D. The ability and love to draw monsters and “body horror” is what sets Harrow County authors apart from the rest. In addition to the horde of evil spirits, which range from skinless little boys to giant demons, the comic is replete with nauseating moments, such as people with disfigured faces, rotten food in which maggots are swarming, and, of course, a lot of blood.

Freaks In The Heartland

A slow, moving story about the importance and, at the same time, depravity of family ties, about the deeply wounded and wretched - all this through the prism of a closed community.

Greg Ruth, a comic book artist known among other things for his illustrations based on Twin Peaks, did a masterful job of conveying the viscous atmosphere of the work. Autumn, dirty tones are ideal for depicting rural areas: dilapidated barns, endless fields and withered trees. With every frame you plunge into the abyss of hopelessness, saturated with hatred and fear.

Even though the general outline of the universe is unsaid and many elements remain behind the scenes, ignoring the reader’s questions, the comic focuses on the two-faced nature of family ties. The authors are more interested in talking about the ambiguous moral essence of ugliness, where the absence of physical flaws does not make you a good person.

Moonshine

Another work from the famous duo responsible for the crime comic 100 Bullets. Without parting with the gangsters, the authors add a pinch of horror and supernatural monsters to their new creation.

Moonshine will tell you a lot with its ambiguous name: having coveted excellent moonshine, polished gentlemen in jackets and with Thompson machine guns send their man to West Virginia in order to conclude a deal and arrange the supply of alcohol. As a result, the hero encounters a family clan of proud werewolves who do not need partners.

By setting the story in forests and swamps, Azzarello gives Risso complete carte blanche, emphasizing his irresistible love of contrast. Having gotten rid of contours, the artist enthusiastically depicts shadows that replace objects, buildings and even entire backgrounds. Whether it’s a hidden werewolf in the thicket of a forest, a character’s languid gaze, or a half-empty room, the artist invariably lines the frame with twilight.

In addition to the amazing art and monsters with bloody mouths, the comic contains reflections on the theme of loss - one of the main leitmotifs of Brian Azzarello. Main character Having lost a loved one, with every step deep into the wild lands he risks losing himself, forever getting lost in the madness of moonlight.

Hellboy The Crooked Man

Traveling through 1950s Virginia, a cult demon witnesses otherworldly interference and teams up with a local redneck as they both try to figure out what's going on here.

The drawing is not made by Mike Mignola himself, but by the legendary author and artist Richard Corben, who specializes in the horror genre and is known for his distinctive style, expressed in the grotesque masculinity of the characters. This time, instead of muscular monsters, Corben surrounds readers with endless tracts of coniferous forests. The stunning beauty of the original landscape in Richard's rough, sloppy drawing captivates and points to sinister secrets hidden in the depths of untouched nature.

While the drawing conveys the aesthetics most effectively one-story America, with all its crumbling chapels in the wilderness and wooden shacks inhabited by witches, the story focuses on the motives of return: returning home to origins, family reunion. Hellboy serves as a silent observer here, often remaining in the shadows or on the edge of the frame, giving way to the cursed little people who want to find peace in this dead land.

In general, comics are a very difficult medium for horror: the specificity of the image of frames and the absence of sounds pushes Mignola and Corben not to use standard “boo” moments and regular depiction of challenging elements on the pages of the comic, but to consistently build an oppressive atmosphere.

Gradually, page after page, the heroes plunge into the abyss of witchcraft, losing their comrades and all hope of redemption. When it’s all over, the reader will long remember the silent expanses of the mountains, dense forests and the crooked grin of the devil.

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The traditional role of the family of small interfering RNAs (siRNAs), small RNA molecules that do not code for proteins, is considered to be the repression of gene activity and, in particular, protein synthesis. However, a new study has shown (for the umpteenth time!) that the functions of one of the groups of these molecules - microRNAs - are much broader: in certain cases they can stimulate translation rather than block it.

In the last ten to fifteen years, the basic dogma of molecular biology (“DNA → RNA → protein”) has been significantly weakened and expanded due to the fact that a great many molecular mechanisms have been discovered that stand out from this harmonious concept. The discoveries associated with short, non-protein-coding RNA molecules were revolutionary: this included the famous phenomenon of RNA interference (noted by the Nobel Prize shortly after its discovery) and other mechanisms of RNA-dependent gene repression. One of the types of short RNAs - micro-RNAs (miRNAs; miRNA) is actively involved in the processes individual development organism, including temporal control, death, cell proliferation and differentiation, embryonic organ formation. They fine-tune gene expression at the post-transcriptional level, thereby adding another layer of complexity to the sophisticated mechanism of intracellular regulation. Originally discovered in a "laboratory" nematode C. elegans, miRNAs were then discovered in many plants and animals, and more recently in single-celled organisms.

Previously, it was believed that short RNAs are used by cells in the process of RNA interference for the specific degradation of unnecessary or harmful RNAs - in particular, this is how a cell can destroy foreign genetic material of viruses, related retrotransposons and other mobile elements, as well as RNA formed as a result of transcription genomic repeat sequences. Therefore, it was logical to assume that short RNAs serve as a kind of prototype of the “immune system” inside the cell. As our understanding of the participants and mechanisms of RNA-dependent gene repression developed, more and more new interesting features, the rich variety of ways of implementing this repression existing in nature was revealed.

The mechanism of action of most miRNAs is in many ways similar to RNA interference - a short (21–25 bases) single-stranded RNA as part of a protein complex (the key component of which is a protein of the Argonaute) bind with high specificity to the complementary region in the 3′-untranslated region (3′-UTR) of the target mRNA. In plants, the miRNAs of which are completely complementary to a segment of the target mRNA, binding leads to cleavage of the mRNA by the protein Argonaute right in the middle of the miRNA–mRNA duplex - a situation closest to “classical” RNA interference. In animals, miRNAs are not completely complementary to their target, and the result of binding is different. For a long time it was believed that binding leads to suppression of translation (the mechanism of which still remains a mystery) and does not cause any noticeable degradation of the target mRNA. However, it was later convincingly demonstrated that for most miRNAs this is not the case - proteins forming a complex with miRNAs stimulate the degradation of target mRNA, attracting enzymes that remove the cap at the 5′ end and shorten the poly(A) tail at the 3′ end. end of the mRNA. (This is where the degradation of mRNAs that have served their purpose usually begins.) Surprisingly, it is still not entirely clear whether the suppression of translation is a cause or a consequence of the onset of mRNA degradation.

Meanwhile, life once again demonstrates its reluctance to fit into any clear-cut schemes: in the laboratory of Joan Steitz ( Joan Steitz) it was found that siRNAs can effectively suppress translation by binding not only to the 3′ untranslated region of mRNA, but also to the 5′ UTR. And recently in the magazine Science another article from this successful laboratory appeared. It says that under certain conditions (reminiscent of cells going into “hibernation” when they are cultivated in the absence of serum in a nutrient medium), the interaction of miRNA and target mRNA leads to a strictly opposite effect - enhancing synthesis target protein. This was shown for the mRNA of one of the cytokines, tumor necrosis factor α (TNF-α), and the miRNA miR369-3, and then confirmed for the let7-a and miRcxcr4 miRNAs paired with artificially constructed mRNA targets.

Figure 1. In an actively dividing cell, miRNA binds to a complementary sequence in the 3′ untranslated region of mRNA and inhibits protein synthesis (translation).

However, in a resting cell, the same event leads to exactly the opposite effect. Interestingly, the effect of the same miRNA depended on the state of the cells: in dividing cells, miRNA inhibited the translation of mRNA, and in quiescent cells (temporarily left the cell cycle), on the contrary, it stimulated (Fig. 1). It is also interesting that miRNAs acted as part of a complex containing proteins Argonaute 2 And FXR1 Argonaute(although the human genome encodes 4 related proteins of the family , and all of them deal with miRNA to one degree or another). It is these proteins that belong the main role

The question of the mechanism of action, as well as the avalanche of other, more specific questions raised by this publication, remain unanswered. But I remember the time when the phenomenon of RNA interference had just been discovered - how clear everything was to us then and how logical it seemed!.. But now we can only shrug our shoulders - the further into the forest, the more firewood.

Literature

1. MicroRNAs were discovered for the first time in a single-celled organism;
2. Grigorovich S. (2003). Small RNAs in big science. Part 1. The phenomenon of small RNAs. scientific.ru;
3. J. R. Lytle, T. A. Yario, J. A. Steitz. (2007). Target mRNAs are repressed as efficiently by microRNA-binding sites in the 5" UTR as in the 3" UTR. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 104 , 9667-9672;
4. S. Vasudevan, Y. Tong, J. A. Steitz. (2007). Switching from Repression to Activation: MicroRNAs Can Up-Regulate Translation. Science. 318 , 1931-1934;
5. Nicole Rusk. (2008). When microRNAs activate translation. Nat Methods. 5 , 122-123.

As Sherlock Holmes said, from a drop of water, a thinking and thinking person can logically draw conclusions about the existence of the Black Sea or Niagara Falls, even if he has never seen either one in his life. It's about that any action has results in the future; if there is a cause, then there is a consequence.

This is the meaning of the proverb “they cut down the forest and the chips fly.” True, its meaning shows that the consequence is not always positive.

What do flying chips mean?

Imagine that a forest is being felled. Trees fall one after another, and in the process dust rises and chips of damaged wood fly in all directions. It’s good if they don’t hit anyone, but such a sliver can both injure and blind. When they say “they cut down the forest, the chips fly,” the meaning is this: in order to achieve a good and desired result, you may have to suffer a little damage from the chips. But it is not comparable to the more global and colossal goal - the resulting wood. In the Ukrainian language there is a proverb with a similar meaning. It sounds like this: “where there is flour, there is also dust,” which can be translated as “where there is flour, there is always dust.”

Another meaning of this proverb, more economic, is that flying chips are small but obligatory production costs.

There would be no happiness, but misfortune would help

The meaning of the proverbs “they cut down the forest - the chips fly” and “if there was no happiness, but misfortune helped” are opposite in meaning, although they are often confused. So, in the first case, it is meant that on the way to achieving a good, and most importantly, desired result, you may have to endure negative consequences. In the second case, it means that sometimes trouble can lead to good, unpredictable and unexpected consequences. Sometimes people get confused about the meaning of these two sayings and use them incorrectly.

Another meaning of the proverb “when the forest is cut down, the chips fly”

There is an interesting suggestion that this proverb refers to larger concepts, such as entire nations. How to understand “the forest is cut down and the chips fly” in this case? Thus, a forest can be associated with a people or nation in the process of change (felling a forest). Sometimes these changes are quite positive and bring something good, but any changes will cause innocent victims. In this case, chips are understood as human broken destinies.

Synonymous saying about causation

The meaning of the proverbs “if they cut down a forest, the chips fly” and “if you don’t break eggs, you can’t fry eggs” are close in meaning. In both cases, it is implied that on the path to a big and good goal one cannot do without concessions and possible inconveniences. But if in a conversation about cutting down wood, wood chips are an optional and not very significant factor, then in the case of scrambled eggs it is meant that sacrifices for the good (broken eggs) cannot be avoided.

Many people mistakenly consider the meaning of the proverbs “they cut down the forest - the chips fly” and “the further into the forest - the more firewood” is the same, because in both the first and second cases we are talking about the forest and trees. But it is not so. The second proverb implies that any business in the process of execution can bring more and more surprises, and the further it goes, the more big troubles may collide.

To summarize

The Russian language is rich not only in words, but also in phraseological units, catchphrases, sayings and proverbs. Using them, you enrich your speech, make it even more colorful and rich, and also show your intellectual level with dignity. At the same time, it is important to use the right phrases to the point, otherwise you will goof off instead of showing off your intelligence. Now knowing correct value proverbs: “If you cut down a forest, the chips fly,” “If you don’t break eggs, you can’t fry an egg,” “the further into the forest, the more firewood,” you can use them appropriately.

The figurative meaning of the proverb further into the forest - more firewood

Andrey Martin

The figurative meaning has nothing to do with the FOREST... You can give a synonymous chain FOREST - WILD - PROBLEMS (OBJECTIVES). FIREWOOD - SOLVING A PROBLEM That is, the meaning becomes this: the more you solve problems, study any issue, the more new problems appear that require new solutions... I like Murphy’s Law on this topic “Solving one task (problem) entails the emergence of many other unsolved problems (problems)”... I am a programmer, so this law or saying can be applied to me approximately in the sense of “Identifying one error in program entails an increase in the number of undetected errors :-)" this saying can be applied everywhere

What does it mean - the further into the forest, the more firewood?)))

Landscape

The further you get into problems, the larger and larger they become
The further you delve into the situation, the more unexpected moments arise. I reason based on the fact that there is an expression “to make a mess”, which is probably older than this saying.

Sergey Kropachev

and as the saying goes, when you enter the forest, it’s not difficult to walk, but the further you go, the more difficult it is, the thickets. But in life, when you stir up some kind of business, at first it seems like nothing, but then it turns out that there are a lot of problems, and the further you go, the more.

Natalia Kondratskaya

It’s about the same as “if you don’t know the ford, don’t get into the water” or “the less you know, you sleep better and live longer.” This is when you take on something, and then you regret that you took it on, because you didn’t calculate the strengths and pitfalls (especially if tried to help someone and failed, but caused harm).

Where does the proverb come from - the further into the forest the more firewood there is?

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The further into the forest, the more firewood.
THE FURTHER INTO THE FOREST, THE BIGGER THE DROVES. The more you delve into some... business, you delve into problems, the more surprises or difficulties arise that are not easy to overcome. The proverb is actually Russian, recorded from the 17th-18th centuries. : Farther into the forest, more firewood; The further into the forest there is more firewood. IN Polish language, apparently, Russianism: Im dale/ wlas, tym wiecejdrzew. ffl My wife is hysterical. The daughter declares that she is unable to live with such violent parents and gets dressed to leave home. The further into the forest, the more firewood. It ends with the important guest finding a doctor on stage applying lead lotions to her husband’s head. (A. Chekhov. Vaudeville). Will there be an end, will the time come when with a light heart you can say to yourself that you have done everything you wanted, achieved what you wanted? Hardly. The further into the forest, the more firewood. (V. Tendryakov. Behind the running day). * The apotheosis of this “process” was the withdrawal from the general Union of Writers of Bondarev’s SP of the RSFSR; then followed the convening of an emergency congress of the same Bondarev wing of the RSFSR SP. His opponents, their meetings and plenums Vl. Gusev dubbed it the “Parade of Informers.” Ee-zh! If your shoulder gets itchy, swing your arm... Further into the forest there is more firewood: Bondarev’s secretariat is decisively closing the Union of Writers of the USSR, since it “ceased to exist.”, . Simple and clear. (B. Mozhaev. Passion-faces. Literary newspaper. 09.25.91). After this [accrual], the salary leaves the region and goes to yours. hometown. The further into the forest, the slower the money “makes its way”. (Arguments and Facts, No. 45. 1996). Wed. : Further into the sea - more grief; Further into the argument - more words.

How to write a fairy tale based on the proverb “The further into the forest, the more firewood”?

How to write a fairy tale based on the proverb “The further into the forest, the more firewood” for 2nd grade?

Galina Vasilna

There lived in the same village a woman and her two sons. The children were not big, but they could already help at home. One day my mother left for work, and before leaving she asked her sons to go to the forest and bring brushwood:

My dear sons, don’t go too far into the forest, don’t take too much brushwood. So that you yourself don’t get too tired and don’t strain your arms.

Mom left, and the sons dressed warmly, took a sled and rope and went into the forest. They came in from the edge, looked around, and it seemed to them that there wasn’t enough brushwood here. We went further into the forest. It’s true, the further into the forest they went, the more firewood they found. Apparently others cut down from the edge, but not everyone went into the thicket. The guys chopped wood and loaded it onto the sled. We tried, we wanted to please my mother and prepare more firewood. Only when we set off on the return journey did the heavily loaded sleigh either fall into the snow, then cling to the bushes, or fall on its side.

It’s hard to drag, the guys are tired, and it’s still very far from home. After all, they went to the forest light, and back with a loaded sled.

The guys see that it’s already getting dark, but they can’t get out of the forest. Then they removed half the wood from the sled, tied it up again and hurried home. They walk along the road and think: after all, mother told them not to go too far. After all, even along the edge of the forest it was possible to collect the firewood that would fit on their sleds. You don't always have to go far for something you can't carry.