Let them say a 12 year old girl gave birth.

17:05 / 25 Feb. 2016

In the village of Krasny Oktyabr, Kurgan Region, fifth-grader Oksana gave birth to a child. And she named him after the hero of the series “ Magnificent century» Suleiman. Who gave birth to 12- summer girl– they are trying to answer this question in the “Let Them Talk” studio on 02/25/2016.

Oksana hardly saw her son

Now the girl is not allowed to see her son. Who the father is is unknown. Either a father, or a stepfather, or a neighbor... And the main suspect, the neighbor, is 64 years old.

Svetlana Tungusova, mother of a girl’s classmate, in the studio.


My daughter told me about Oksana’s pregnancy,” she says. - At first I didn’t believe it... And then I was horrified. Oksana from dysfunctional family, but the girl is very good. Quiet, modest. She is very friendly with my daughter.

Elena Krivosheeva, Oksana’s neighbor, tells.


Larisa - very good mother. Children are always clean and well-groomed. She just worked all day long, trying to give them everything...

The mother found out about the pregnancy when Oksana was 35 weeks old

Oksana's mother, Larisa Lazareva, is also in the studio. As she enters, she cries.


In March we were invited to take a repeat test. Oksana was suspected of having diabetes. And it turned out that she was 35 weeks pregnant. I thought that she had gained weight from increased nutrition - she was suspected of having diabetes. She didn’t tell me anything about anything, she was just silent. First, my son, Ruslan, was taken away on charges. They said he was guilty. But the analysis showed that he is not the father. Why they thought about him - I still don’t understand.

Everyone thought that Oksana was pregnant from her brother

The reason was the entries in the girl’s personal diary. She drew hearts and wrote her brother's name.



The mother was not present at the interrogation; the class teacher was there instead.

It turns out that the child was born with a heart defect.

That same diary, as it turned out, belonged to Oksana’s sister, Gala.

My friend tells me everything.


Galya said that her neighbor had been raping her for seven years. And their mother knew about it.

Yes, they went to a neighbor’s house,” the mother confirms. - But there was nothing like that.

It turns out that Larisa has 9 children. But for five of them she was deprived of parental rights.

The children themselves left Larisa’s house for the orphanage

Alexander Lazarev, the eldest son, for whom Larisa has been deprived of parental rights, in the studio.


I live separately. But once upon a time, when I came, my stepfather accused Ruslan of sleeping with Galya. But I don't believe in it. She visited him often, because she did not want to live at home.

Sasha’s wife, Olga, is also in the studio. It is because of her that the mother does not communicate with her eldest son.


I am 31 years old, Sasha is 21. Sasha constantly tells me about his childhood. About how Larisa went to a neighbor, lived with him (not the same neighbor. - Ed.). One evening Galya came to us and complained that her kidneys hurt. But she is only 14 years old! I said that she and I should go to the hospital. And I saw that she was embarrassed. And then Ruslan called and said that Galya told him that she was not a girl. She said she was raped. And they raped me constantly. What was some classmate of hers doing? And she also said that she and her neighbor were playing strip cards. And they talked about this to Larisa. And on the record, Galya said that when she sleeps, her father pesters her with his fingers... He sits on her bed.

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In the village of Krasny Oktyabr (Kurgan region), a scandalous incident resounded throughout the country. A 12-year-old schoolgirl, 5a grade student Oksana Didenko gave birth to a son, whom she named Suleiman in honor of the main character of the Turkish soap opera “The Magnificent Century”. All residents of the village only guess who the child’s father is: some named the girl’s stepfather, others called the 64-year-old neighbor, and some even suspected the schoolgirl’s older brother! Watch Let them talk 02/25/2016 - Who gave birth to a 12-year-old schoolgirl?

Currently, Oksana Didenko’s 64-year-old neighbor Georgy is in a pre-trial detention center on suspicion of raping a girl. Residents of the village of Krasny Oktyabr (Kargapolsky district, Kurgan region) claim that they have repeatedly seen a man offering children a ride in his car. To find out who gave birth to 12-year-old schoolgirl Oksana Didenko, a DNA examination was carried out. All the main participants in this high-profile story gathered today in the Let Them Talk studio.

Who gave birth to the 12-year-old schoolgirl

Svetlana Tungusova is the mother of classmate Oksana Didenko.

Thanks to Svetlana, many people learned about this story:

“One day my daughter came home from school and told me that Oksana, with whom she was sitting at the same desk, was pregnant. I didn’t believe it at first, but then parent meeting I found out that this is true. I still don’t know Oksana’s parents, but I know the girl herself: she is very good, kind and sympathetic. , there are still rumors. Basically, everyone thinks about 64-year-old neighbor Georgiy. We were all in shock.

Georgy Khalezin in this moment is in a pre-trial detention center - he is suspected of raping a girl

Larisa Lazareva - Oksana's mother - in the studio:

— On November 17th, we were invited to take tests again, since Oksana was suspected of having diabetes, but it suddenly turned out that she was pregnant! (crying) I was already 35 weeks pregnant. First, they accused my eldest son Ruslan of allegedly knocking up my daughter.

Older brother of a 12-year-old girl Ruslan

- He was taken straight from the hospital - Ruslan had previously had a heart attack. Now DNA has been done and it has become clear that he is not the father of the child. They just took the first one they came across!

Unexpected details

It is known that a personal diary was found, presumably belonging to Oksana, in which she confessed her love to a guy named Ruslan - possibly her older brother. However, further, according to the girl Natalya from the village of Krasny Oktyabr, it turns out that the diary belongs to the girl’s older sister, Gala, and the most terrible truth the fact that 64-year-old neighbor Georgy mocked not only Oksana, but also Galya. “Galya told me that she often visited her neighbor for seven years, and came from him with money or candy,” says the girl.

Eldest son Alexander in the studio Let them say:

— Galya came to me and asked me to help. I saw that something was happening to them. My stepfather accused Ruslan of sleeping with Galya, but I don’t think that’s true. And my mother didn’t care about us at all, we survived as best we could. Both our mother and stepfather beat us. I will never forgive her...

Alexander's wife:

“I’ve been living these year and a half as if in hell.” I gave birth to a daughter at the age of 19, now she is sick and we are in Moscow for treatment. It really hurts me to see that my husband's mother never took care of her children!

From whom the 12-year-old schoolgirl gave birth, various rumors are circulating in the village of Krasny Oktyabr. And here’s another version: Oksana’s father Alexander Didenko is sure that the neighbor is not Suleiman’s father. According to Alexander, Georgy cannot have children, and the police simply “didn’t want to look for the real rapist.”

How will the discussion of this scandalous story end, see the episode Let Them Talk 02/25/2016 - Who gave birth to a 12-year-old schoolgirl? (about a 12-year-old resident of the village of Krasny Oktyabr (Kurgan region) Oksana Didenko, who allegedly gave birth to a son from a 64-year-old neighbor).

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Muscovite Valya Isaeva, at the age of 11, gave birth to a daughter from 17-year-old Khabib Patakhonov from Tajikistan. In 2005, this story was discussed by the whole country: Valya’s case is truly unique. Then many demanded that the young man be punished for seducing the girl, while others referred to the fact that everything was by mutual consent. What happened to the heroes of this story 12 years later?

In 2005, the court did not severely punish Patakhonov. And a few years later, Khabib and Valya got married. After 9 years, another child appeared in the family - son Amir. Valya was 20 years old then. Everything seemed fine. But then discord began in the family.

This is what Valya’s daughter looks like now:

Recently the heroes of this story appeared on scandalous talk show"Let them talk". As it turned out, the couple's relationship had deteriorated hopelessly.

The husband admitted that he cheated on his wife and also raised his hand against her. 24-year-old Valentina said that she has already more than a year is in a relationship with someone else and is planning to file for divorce. Valya came to the Let Them Talk studio with her new boyfriend, Viktor Popov.

She stated that after filming another program “Actually” ex-husband stole her son and does not allow them to see each other:

I came to the studio today to ask for help to get my son back, I don’t know what’s wrong with him for a whole week, I’m on the phone all day. He says he will take me to Tajikistan, stole my birth certificate, took all my money, I don’t know where my son is.

The girl admitted that scandals in her family began after the birth of her second child. Her husband stopped working at that time, and he also had no documents.

One day Valya received a call from a work colleague, and Khabib heard male voice and hit his wife, suspecting him of treason. As the girl says, after this call her husband beat her for three and a half hours.

The host of the program invited Patakhonov to the studio, who, according to him, wanted to improve relations with his wife. But the meeting ended in scandal.

Why are you making me a scapegoat, you should behave normally,” the husband said. “I didn’t steal him, he went visiting with me.”

After this, a fight broke out in the studio: Khabib attacked the girl’s new lover with his fists.

The presenter managed to calm him down. In parting, Khabib told his wife about his new lover: “He will play with you and sooner or later he will throw you out.” He allowed his son to stay with his mother.

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Kurgan went on federal air

The story about a 12-year-old girl who was raped - in the program “Let Them Talk”

The story of a 12-year-old girl from the Kurgan region, who was raped and gave birth to a child, became the topic of the next broadcast of the program “Let Them Talk,” which aired on Channel One yesterday, February 25. The girl’s relatives and neighbors gathered in the studio of the program, and the main accusations were made against her mother, who during the broadcast supported not her children, but the suspect in the case.

As it became known during the program, a fifth-grader gave birth to a son and named him Suleiman in honor of the hero of the series “The Magnificent Century.” The suspect in the rape of the girl is now a neighbor of the family - a 64-year-old pensioner, he is in a pre-trial detention center.

According to village resident Svetlana Tungusova, her daughter has been sitting at the same desk with the injured girl for several years, and it was she who said that the schoolgirl was pregnant. “My first reaction was that the child is making things up. This cannot be,” Tungusova admitted. But later it turned out that this was indeed true.

The mother of the raped girl entered the Let Them Talk studio in tears, but a little later the wrath of all the participants in the TV show fell upon her. The woman said that on November 17, 2015, she and her daughter were invited to retake tests because the girl was suspected of having diabetes. Then it turned out that the 12-year-old daughter was pregnant - the period at that time was 35 weeks. “It was unnoticeable because she was on an enhanced diet, because she was suspected of having diabetes mellitus even before that,” the woman explained.

She claims that the girl refused to tell both her mother and doctors what happened to her.

The first suspect in the rape was the girl's half-brother, who had recently returned from the army. “He was taken straight from the hospital from an IV drip, where we sent him the day before with a heart attack,” the woman said.

Suspicion fell on the guy, in particular, due to the fact that a children's diary was found, where it was written across the page: “I love you” with his name young man. However, relatives of the family say that the diary was not kept by the victim girl herself, but by her 14-year-old sister (the girls and the boy were from different fathers).

In order to establish whether the brother is really the father of the child, a DNA test was done. The test showed that the young man is not the baby's father.

The mother said that the child born to her daughter was sick - he had a heart defect. He was taken for treatment to the Red Cross hospital, and the girl herself was sent to a distribution center. At the same time, the woman emphasized that she wants to take her grandson, but they will not give him to her, since she was previously deprived of parental rights - having lost her job, she began to abuse alcohol. “But my parental rights have been restored. 5 years have already passed,” she emphasized.

As it turned out, the woman has 9 children in total. She was deprived of parental rights by the eldest of them. At the same time, the eldest son said that he himself asked to be taken to the orphanage because he was beaten in the family.

The facts from the lives of younger children are even more terrifying. Their relative said that for 7 years the girls were abused by a 64-year-old neighbor.

The neighbor about whom we're talking about, lives behind the wall: the house was built for two families. The mother of the raped girl admitted that she knew that her children came to him and spent time with him. At the same time, according to her niece, the 14-year-old girl said that they always came from a neighbor with money or candy. The mother to whom they spoke about this did not listen to them. "This complete lie", the woman responded.

The same girl told her brother and his wife that she had been raped. She complained that her kidneys hurt, and when she was offered to undergo a full examination, including by a gynecologist, the girl became embarrassed and admitted that she was no longer innocent. “She said that a boy from school held her, and the second, 20-year-old, raped her. They did this repeatedly. And she (nods at the mother) knew this too, this happened over the course of a year,” said the wife of the girl’s brother.

It turned out that this is not all.

The same girl said that her father molested her. “This is complete nonsense,” said the mother.

However, her 25-year-old daughter, for whom this man is a stepfather, admitted that while she lived with the family, he also molested her.

In addition, the 14-year-old sister of the raped girl also spoke about visiting her neighbor. “She said that she and her brother and sister (a 12-year-old girl who later gave birth - editor's note) went to a neighbor's house to play strip cards. And the most important thing is that they told her (the mother) about it,” the wife of these girls’ brother revealed the facts.

Their older sister also added that she learned from the children that they were visiting a neighbor. According to her, there was even a video recording of the strip game, but the neighbor destroyed it. And my brother once said that in the summer he came to a neighbor and saw how he younger sister(the girl who subsequently gave birth) sits on a chair and gets dressed.

The girl's mother said she talked to the neighbor, but he denied everything.

Her husband has a different version of events. The man also believes that the neighbor was not involved in the rape of his daughter. “Wonderful, quiet, calm. The girl was “pinned down” and she testified against him. So they caught him and let's carry him. Because they don't want to look. He is an old man, childless,” he believes. According to him, his daughter told him that when she was walking from school, a car drove up to her and she was asked to show where one of the village women lived. When the girl got into the car, the doors were closed, and the child “passed out.” When she came to, she was taken out of the car.

Perhaps the main evidence made public on air was the diary of a 14-year-old girl from this family, in which she wrote: “If my mother does not testify in court and tells lies, I know and want to tell everyone that we went to a neighbor, played for stripping. My neighbor was harassing me."

The girl wrote that they began to come to their neighbor more often to play for stripping and received money for it. And one day, she said, a neighbor called her and her 12-year-old sister into the kitchen, and then took her sister by the hand and led her away. “He began to undress her. And then (name) will tell you what he did. My fault is that I remained silent and did not protect anyone,” wrote the sister of the injured girl.

However, upon hearing this, the girls' mother said that the handwriting in the diary was not her daughter's.

Then a version was voiced as to why the girls’ mother might be protecting her neighbor. Her niece said: “There was a story that a neighbor offered to sign off part of the house so that she wouldn’t tell anything. They have a house for two owners. That’s why she didn’t tell anyone what was happening, she’s covering for him, it shows.”

Now the youngest four children are in a rehabilitation center. A 12-year-old girl who gave birth came here from a perinatal center and at first was withdrawn; psychologists worked with her. She still tries not to answer questions about her life. “The child is trying to forget it,” admitted Deputy Director of the Regional Social Rehabilitation Center for Minors Olga Medvedeva. According to her, the mother visits the children often - once a week, and she also calls them often.

The children may soon be returned to their families.

On January 26, 2016, a trial was held, which left unsatisfied the demands of the administration of the Kargapol district to deprive the mother and her husband of parental rights.

Let us note that State Duma deputy Olga Kazakova, who took part in the filming of the program, stated that the situation with this family would be taken under control. “This is a terrible tragedy for the girl. If the court returns this woman's children, we don't know what will happen. The child was born sick and needs to be taken care of. Therefore, children must be heard. We will take control and work on it so that the girl does not get into trouble further. Psychologists, doctors, and teachers should deal with it. This is still a child,” she emphasized.

Let us add that words of support were also voiced on air for the girl’s mother. According to some neighbors, she was never seen drunk, and her children looked clean and tidy. People who accompanied the woman on the trip from Kurgan to Moscow noted that she cried for the children throughout the entire journey.

According to the investigative department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for the Kurgan Region, the investigation into the criminal case of rape of a 12-year-old girl (under paragraph “b” of part 4 of Article 131 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) is currently ongoing. All measures are being taken to establish the circumstances of the crimes committed against the child and members of her family. The causes and conditions conducive to the commission of crimes are determined. In addition, security forces are conducting a procedural check for possible negligence of officials in the system for the prevention and neglect of juvenile delinquency; their actions will be given a legal assessment. The progress of the investigation of the case is being monitored by the head of the Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee, Petr Krupenya.

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